Uptown Open Jury

Karin Neuvirth April 8, 2010 at 12:46pm

good question - I'll have to look into that.

Larry Berman said:

OK, Here's where there might be a potential problem. Is the place that's doing the scanning actually scanning in RGB or are they scanning into the CMYK color mode? If they scan in CMYK, they cannot convert to RGB afterwards and get accurate color. I just worked with a painter who had professional scans done to print Giclee's and those digital images couldn't be used for jurying. I had to scan the prints to get accurate color. I've had the same issue with a lot of painters (who had paintings scanned) that I've worked with over the years.

Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100

Larry Berman April 8, 2010 at 12:09pm

OK, Here's where there might be a potential problem. Is the place that's doing the scanning actually scanning in RGB or are they scanning into the CMYK color mode? If they scan in CMYK, they cannot convert to RGB afterwards and get accurate color. I just worked with a painter who had professional scans done to print Giclee's and those digital images couldn't be used for jurying. I had to scan the prints to get accurate color. I've had the same issue with a lot of painters (who had paintings scanned) that I've worked with over the years.

Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100

Karin Neuvirth April 8, 2010 at 12:03pm

I don't actually scan my own images - I have to take them somewhere as they are 1.5" thick on Canvas and 24"x36" in size.

Larry Berman said:

Scan the gray scale chart also and do the same processing you do when scanning your paintings. Then check the values and see if they still are neutral.

I wrote an article that may help you understand:
http://www.bermangraphics.com/digital-jury-resources/black-white-co...

The principals are the same no matter what you use for a gray scale guide.

Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100

Larry Berman April 8, 2010 at 11:13am

Scan the gray scale chart also and do the same processing you do when scanning your paintings. Then check the values and see if they still are neutral.

I wrote an article that may help you understand:
http://www.bermangraphics.com/digital-jury-resources/black-white-co...

The principals are the same no matter what you use for a gray scale guide.

Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100

Karin Neuvirth April 8, 2010 at 9:43am

Thanks for the tip Larry. The images that I had were actually scanned instead of photographed, so I think my problem was with to much red in my paintings, But we do sometimes photograph my work, and always have trouble with the reds - I'll try the grey scale next time.

Larry Berman said:

Hi Ginny,

Have you been to any other open juries where you've seen your images digitally projected? It's possible that you are preparing your images too warm without realizing it. Are you doing your editing on a laptop?

If you include a gray scale chart next to your paintings when photographing them, you can use that to correct any color cast you may have so you'll know if it's your problem or the system's problem.

Just the bottom row is all that's necessary to include in the photograph:

Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100

Karin Neuvirth April 8, 2010 at 9:41am

I also hated how my reds looked when projected, but seeing them projected like that helped me too realize that I was over-doing it with the reds in my paintings. I think seeing my work projected on to the wall has helped me to see a couple of things with new eyes so to speak.

Ginny Herzog said:

I attended the open jury, staying for only three categories - jewelry, drawing and 2D MM. The jewelry looked great, but I was disappointed in how the warm colors looked in the 2D work, particularly the reds and golds. I was grateful for the opportunity to see my images projected and am rethinking the palette of the images that I select next time.

The other thing I found interesting is that there were 3-4 artists who submitted work that was clearly three dimensional in the 2D MM category. Perhaps the category needs to be defined more explicitly.

Larry Berman April 7, 2010 at 11:48pm

Hi Ginny,

Have you been to any other open juries where you've seen your images digitally projected? It's possible that you are preparing your images too warm without realizing it. Are you doing your editing on a laptop?

If you include a gray scale chart next to your paintings when photographing them, you can use that to correct any color cast you may have so you'll know if it's your problem or the system's problem.

Just the bottom row is all that's necessary to include in the photograph:

Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100

Ginny Herzog April 7, 2010 at 11:37pm

I attended the open jury, staying for only three categories - jewelry, drawing and 2D MM. The jewelry looked great, but I was disappointed in how the warm colors looked in the 2D work, particularly the reds and golds. I was grateful for the opportunity to see my images projected and am rethinking the palette of the images that I select next time.

The other thing I found interesting is that there were 3-4 artists who submitted work that was clearly three dimensional in the 2D MM category. Perhaps the category needs to be defined more explicitly.

Karin Neuvirth March 29, 2010 at 4:36pm

I attended the reception on Friday as well as sitting in on the Jurying for Painting, Wood, and Photography. The reception was very nice, with great food, and it was a great opportunity to see the first round of jurying and to be able to see how my images projected compared to the others submitted in my category.

Munks March 26, 2010 at 1:30pm

Because it's not for the artists.

I've been to it. It's a PR stunt for the sponsors and the local bigwigs and the media and the unwashed masses who just might migrate over to Uptown from Powderhorn or Loring Park or whatever rock they may be under that weekend. It's great publicity and validation for the show!

Sometimes the emperor is actually really, really naked and not very pretty to look at despite what anyone else in the kingdom says.

I'm just here to help.

Larry Berman said:

Good to hear you are attending.

I'm puzzled why the shows aren't using the entire ZAPP mailing list to announce open juries, or why ZAPP isn't treating it as an educational experience and notifying everyone on the mailing list.

Larry Berman
Digital Jury Services
http://BermanGraphics.com
412-401-8100

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