It's rare these days that a relatively large show isn't using ZAPP or JAS. both systems are set up to not pay for a booth space until accepted. I'm getting ready to apply to Birmingham's Magic City show - print out the PDF application and mail it in with a CD of ZAPP formatted images. What stopped me is the requirement that you include both a jury fee and a booth fee with the application. I will not be applying if they enforce that archaic pre-ZAPP rule. http://www.magiccityart.com/ I'm going to call them to find out if I can send the booth fee upon acceptance, which is probably the guaranty of rejection. Larry Berman Digital Jury Services http://BermanGraphics.com 412-401-8100

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  • There is a show here in the Dallas/Fort Worth Area that has the same requirement - The Denton Arts & Jazz Festival http://www.dentonjazzfest.com/

    I applied a few years ago, but then got accepted into a better show. I chose to lose my booth fee at Denton and do the better show - needless to say I don't apply to the Denton show anymore. If they'd change the rules and accept booth fees after you are accepted, I'd apply.

    -Josh

    http://JoshTrefethen.com
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  • Back in the olden days we would have thousands of dollars out there floating around waiting for acceptance. From an organizer's point of view I can certainly understand why they'd like the money with the application. After the jurying the money is there and can be deposited. Yet, most shows have finally realized what an imposition it is on the artists and have changed their rules. I'll have to say that at least Magic City is very clear about their policy and good for them.
  • Still on a rant towards me, huh?
    You musta missed Jon Stewart's rally to restore sanity and civility to America.

    I hope you had an enjoyable and productive day Holly. It was wonderful here.

    Carla
  • The most beautiful thing in the world is that Magic City has an option for exhibitors to pay a reduced booth fee with commitment of 10% of sales...I wish other shows would follow the lead to share the risk!
    • what are you saying, Paul? that an artist can choose to pay a commission? any idea on how they handle this? Talk about bureaucratic nightmares...
  • I'd be happy to write a letter to them as and explain why this is a bad idea. Contact me off-board.

    C
  • One of the bigger (better?) shows that still does not use Zapp or JAS and still requires the booth payment with application are the Winter and Spring shows in Bonita Springs. The good news is they respond with acceptance/rejection within about 3 weeks after deadline. So it doesn't really tie up your cash for extended periods.

    Another large show (Vero Beach - Under the Oaks) does actually use JAS. However you MUST mail your booth payment immediately as you apply. It will be cashed, if accepted; otherwise it is returned. Rules state "no refunds".

    These shows should understand that very often artists will skip over these shows with the up front booth requirement because it prevents them from applying from any other show on that same weekend.
  • I'm with you, Larry. No booth fees prior to acceptance. IMO there is no satisfactory reason to collect booth fees from every person who applies to a show unless it is NOT a juried show, a wholly different animal.

    As a show director, I've never required a booth fee prior to acceptance. Artists apply to many shows at a time. If every show required a booth fee up front, thousands of our dollars would be out there in limbo until someone gets around to sending refunds. I certainly cannot afford that and would never expect it from my artists.
  • I do have trouble with "Application to Jury is a Commitment to Attend".

    The good news, though small, is that they allow for cancellations.

    Refund Policy Registration Fees are refundable as follows:
    Full Refunds: cancellation received in writing by January 15, 2011
    75% Refund: cancellation received in writing by February 15, 2011
    50% Refund: cancellation received in writing by March 15, 2011
    No Refund: cancellation received in writing after March 15, 2011 Any unforeseen emergencies after March 15 will be viewed on a case by case basis upon written notice of cancellation.

    Artists accepted to the show from the Wait List will receive a 50% discount if they cancel before April 1, 2011.
    • I just got off the phone with the show. The only reason they ask for the check with application is that it's the way it's always been done. And it saves them paperwork after the jurying. They told me that they don't deposit the check until acceptance.

      Too bad that they've never attended a NAIA show director's conference where they might speak to other directors about what artists consider acceptable policy.

      Larry Berman
      Digital Jury Services
      http://BermanGraphics.com
      412-401-8100
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