Last year at the Neptune Festival was my first show with judging and prize money. It was really funny - because I didn't really know how it all worked. When the judge and his assistant come through my booth - and then put an orange dot on my placard, I thought I had been picked for judging - and let out a little squeal of delight to my friend once the judge had left.

Then I went outside of my booth and say EVERYONE had a little orange dot! 

I didn't get a prize - nor have I to date, and I've been in 7 judged shows since. 

Now that I'm paying attention, I do notice quite a few people shmoozing with the judge in their booth.... talking up their art, explaining the process (etc). I'm wondering what y'all have to say about that - is that a smart thing to do? - or does it annoy the judge? 

Kathy Rose

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  • Rejuvenating a two year old thread, interesting in that I missed this first time around. I've always taken the position that I want to win the award for the most sales.

    I don't believe in schmoozing, but now that I think of it, the three or four times I took the initiative to describe my technique to the judges, I did win awards.

    Larry Berman
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  • Hi....As a former director of a show, I was once asked to judge a show.  I have to say that if a show asked 1 person to judge a show and be responsible for the prize money, most likely it's going to come down to what that particular judge likes, one's knowledge of a medium, etc. etc.  There are so many factors involved.  But the bottomline is, the judge has to respond on an emotional level, for them to remember you and be awarded.  I think the basic responsibility goes back to the show itself.....did the show choose wisely.  They are putting their trust in one person to represent them and the judge is always going to go for the kind of art he/she likes, respects, understands.  I can't remember it's been so long ago if I got smoozed, but it would not have made a bit of difference to me if I thought the art creative, different, worthly et.c   I do remember getting rudely insulted by one of the artist's...."oh, it''s you, I didn't recognize you"  and continued on to give the reason.  So smoozing would have been far more pleasant than being insulted.  I still gave the work it's due look.  But if the festival itself chooses a singular judge (and I think it's a mistake) you're going to get one person's personal preference for art...and it's impossible for it to be any other way.  For example...I don't care for what I call "city art".....dripping negative colors in some horrid abstract way that the artist gives some obscure meaning of deep pain to.....I see an artist that needs a vacation.  It's an individual thing.  Artists need to show what they did and created out of love..if there's love in it , it's well done, and you happen to get the right judge, you might get a ribbon.  As a fellow artist, I say, I would care far more about the buying audience and if they loved it enough to break open the wallet, and take it home to live with it.  The ribbon can be great art combined with a lot of good luck.

  • As a show director, I ask my judges to stop at each booth, talk to the artist, and really consider the work behind each exhibit. Unless the artist is absent from the booth, the judges will speak with everyone. Yes, when you have 100 booths, it takes a long time, but that's what they are paid to do. They also, on occasion, will offer suggestions for improvement, and they are happy to chat with the artists. If they don't understand a process, they ask the artist to explain. There's no way to judge if you don't know.

    Finding objective judges who are qualified to do the job can be a tall order if you live in a smaller town. If I find local judges, local artists who don't win awards will quite often tell me that "I took classes with them years ago and neither one of them ever liked me," or something similar. If I find out-of-town judges, they all want to know, "Where did they come from? Why not someone from around here?" If they win awards, they are delighted, if they don't, it's because the judges didn't come into their booths.

    There is no way to make everyone happy, but I tell all of my participating artists that if they feel the judges passed them by without proper consideration, to let me know and I will try to send them back to chat with them. The last thing I want or need is a bunch of artists who feel disempowered and disrespected, because they won't come back next year. No show can survive that kind of turnover.
    • Adding to my comments above: Judges place a large red dot on the booth number card on the front of every booth.
    • I think the judges should have to go in to each booth and prove it. For example, I have done shows that each judge is given a different colored sticker and they have to place that sticker on your booth id card. Then you and everyone else knows that the judge at least walked into your booth. Usually I just see the judges walk on buy all the booths and not go in. Especially for jewlers, how can they tell unless they are judging on the booth.
      • Melanie,
        All the shows I've been in, the assistant who walks with the judge places the little colored sticker on the booth ID card. This allows the judge to stand in the middle of the roadway - not even entering the booth. Not good.

        I appreciate what Barbara said about how she does things in her shows. In my way of thinking you WANT the artists to feel respected. I do understand how time consuming it is for a judge to go through 100 booths.... what a task.
  • I would say it definitely depends on the personality of each judge but I think it doesn't hurt to stop & talk about your art/process!
    • I have just had the worst series of shows this fall. My spirit is not very happy at the moment, and I am really considering stopping shows next year.

      In the last two shows, the judges acted with so very little regard for the time and effort the artist puts into their work. At one show, the judge didn't even slow down to really see my work - and criticized the booth next to me as she walked by. The show after that, the judge didn't even enter the booths I watched her judge. I'm sure she went into some.... I watched her score about 10 different tents as she walked. She just paused long enough to make a check mark on her sheet.... indicating that they had been "judged"!

      This has been a tough fall for me in shows. I know I'm not the only one.... but when you add a judge who doesn't appear to show respect - it makes it even worse.
      • i know the feeling. I have to look out for judges to make sure they stop & really see what we are doing. we are fiber/wearable(we make clothing.)They just don't give it much regard because they sometimes don't consider what we do art....we have all had a tuf series of shows but that's part of this madness-it's a roller coaster-ecspecially one with many variables. Stay strong & positive....
  • I usually talk to the judges if I can. I think sometimes explaining technique about a particular piece is important. If I don't tell them they won't know. I also think that if it annoys them they probably aren't that interested in my work anyway. It always gets me when a judge stands in the middle of the street to judge jewelry. Happens once in a while.
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