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  Richard L. Sherer September 20, 2012 at 10:31am

  Oooooooh,how snooty the world can be. Let's laugh on the way to the bank.
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  Robert Wallis September 20, 2012 at 10:17am

  Just as an aside on this, it was my observation that the largest amount of bias came from the photographic community and the least amount from the clay community in academia. I suspect the antipathy from the photo academia is turf protection since virtually anyone can pick up a camera and create something. If it wasn't done by their "rules, it was marginalized.
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  Richard L. Sherer September 20, 2012 at 9:03am

  Robert, thanks for the insight.
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  Robert Wallis September 19, 2012 at 10:23pm

  Richard, I've ran into that issue before. I mentioned doing art fairs when in art grad school ( I was in my 40's and had been doing shows for about 5-8 years), and you would have thought I passed gas in church. Art fair work in their eyes was mere decorative arts of low caliber. I kept my mouth shut, knowing most of them would never make a living doing their art work anyway. Another time about 20 years ago, I managed to get some work into a high end gallery in Louisville, KY, 12 pieces of a series using GI Joe and Barbie figures that did come out of a grad project (which sell quite nicely at fairs to this day). I was at the opening night of the regional exhibit and the other artists and I were were standing around munching on square pieces of cheese and drinking wine from plastic cups. Several were talking about their other exhibits and I was asked where I exhibited. I mentioned several of the better art shows. The reaction was one of a sudden chill and I almost could hear air being sucked through teeth. As the old expression goes, you would have thought I had just dropped a turd in the punchbowl. That sort of killed the conversation and I found myself ignored the rest of the evening. Yep, many times these are the same people who jury shows.
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  Richard L. Sherer September 19, 2012 at 8:02pm

  Another interesting comment was about academics telling their undergrad (?) and MFA(?) students that art fairs were beneath them as artist. Are these the same academics that jury shows? Hmmmmmm
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  Connie Mettler September 19, 2012 at 5:41pm

  That was one of the best "takeaway" points I thought, Richard. It takes some confidence but really would you be out there self-employed, independent, and not believing/hoping you could make your dreams come true? Artists already believe in themselves or they wouldn't leave themselves at the mercy of the marketplace as they do, so why not reach for the top? I've tried it by accident, but why not make it a commonplace. What if only, as Barney says, it only works 10% of the time you propose it?
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  Richard L. Sherer September 19, 2012 at 2:39pm

  I listened to this podcast while working in the studio this morning - started four saddles and thanks to Facebook the fourth is also sold as of today. Pricing for "wall art" is a world apart from pricing fine craft. The sales strategies are universal. Got a good reminder about showing the most expensive first and will put that back in practice next summer.
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  Connie Mettler September 15, 2012 at 8:00am

  So pleased to speak with you, Barney. I'm still processing your ideas and am very interested in the books you mentioned when we were speaking. It has had a record # of downloads for our podcast series already!
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  Barney Davey September 14, 2012 at 11:59pm

  Dear Connie, Thank you for inviting me to do blog podcast with you. I enjoyed the time and the opportunity to share my knowledge with your listeners. All the best to them and to you for continued art career success!

  Cheers, Barney
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  Larry Berman September 14, 2012 at 2:19pm

  How soon they forget.
  
  The same Shepard Fairey that stole the Associated Press photographers Obama picture and lied under oath about it.
  
  Larry Berman